1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,760 {\an8}Danny can see us in 45. 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,959 I'll meet you there. 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,640 - We don't want to be late... - I'll meet you there. Okay? 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,120 {\an8}Sure. 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,280 {\an8}Hey, stranger. 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,279 {\an8}I thought you'd gone to Harrogate? 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,600 {\an8}I just got back. I'm on my way to work, but... 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,640 I wanted to see you. 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Great. 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,880 - Go on, sir! - Go on, sir. 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,440 So what was he like? 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,959 {\an8}Like? 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,400 {\an8}Yeah. What did you make of him? 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,160 {\an8}Erm... 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,080 {\an8}Er, he was young. About my age. 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,760 {\an8}Dressed in a hoody... 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,320 {\an8}He was... He was frightened. 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,160 {\an8}Like he was... 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,920 {\an8}And you'd never seen him before? 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,040 {\an8}No. Never. 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,040 {\an8}What should we do? 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,920 {\an8}About his warning? 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,080 {\an8}Something else hidden in the code. 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,400 {\an8}That's right. 25 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:31,120 {\an8}What do you think? 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,240 {\an8}I guess that I trust Saara's instincts. 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,680 {\an8}She's been right before. 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,320 {\an8}Mm. 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,960 {\an8}It feels like a provocation to me. 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 {\an8}It's classic FSB mind games. 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,879 {\an8}It's very vague. 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,400 {\an8}There's nothing specific, there's nothing we can use. 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,160 Resources are tight, you know. 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,480 I can't keep throwing people at this thing, you know. 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Not without something concrete to go on. 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Look... 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,360 if you want to keep looking, that's fine, all right? 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,200 But in your own time, okay? 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Okay. I better run. 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,919 That's it? 41 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:18,080 Apparently. 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,600 - Hey. - What? 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,960 Do you wanna get a drink after work? 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Look... 45 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,680 what happened in Harrogate, it was a mistake, okay? 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,640 I... I don't usually drink alcohol, and I... 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,400 It was a mistake. That's all. 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,480 Sure. 49 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,120 How much do you know about what we do here? 50 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Just what I've read online. 51 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,000 That we're Putin's poodle? 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,560 A propaganda mouthpiece? 53 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,880 Of course, the people who say that mostly work for media billionaires 54 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:19,880 and publish what they're told to publish. 55 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:21,520 So glass houses, wouldn't you say? 56 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Or maybe you don't know that English expression? 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,199 No, I know it. 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Steve Cleary, one of our shooting producers. 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,360 Hi. 60 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,680 I'm afraid that's the only Russian I know. 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,239 Nice to meet you, too. 62 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,520 - You ready to get out there? - Now? 63 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Sure. Why not? Just do what he says. 64 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,720 He knows what he's doing. More or less. 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Okay. 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Are you Daz? 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,760 That's right. 68 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,680 Thanks for coming. I'm Kathy. Can I join you? 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Be my guest. 70 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,200 I'm told you were mentioned at COBR recently. 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,480 Really? 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,719 Did they enjoy my Russian light show? 73 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,760 I think it got their attention. 74 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,440 And Putin's, probably. 75 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,799 It's hard to undermine the free world 76 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,920 when the lights in your office are literally on the blink. 77 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Apparently, some people thought that it was us. 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,160 Is that right? 79 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:31,160 Well, you only have to ask. 80 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,920 Mm. 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,040 You know what, that is exactly what I've been sent to talk to you about. 82 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,399 I thought GCHQ didn't employ Black Hats. 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,840 Well, maybe not "employ" exactly. 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,560 More of an informal contribution. 85 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,800 On what basis? 86 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:48,400 On a patriotic basis. 87 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:50,920 That's how you describe yourself, isn't it? 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,319 Jolly Roger, the "Patriotic Hacker"? 89 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,640 Even patriots get paid, Kathy. 90 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,680 I'm sure we can come to an arrangement. 91 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,520 - This is it? - This is it. 92 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Put them on. 93 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,000 You're joking, right? 94 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,320 No, I'm not joking. 95 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,760 I'm not in any danger. 96 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,280 Just do it, okay? 97 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Who are they? 98 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,560 Now! 99 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,759 I never thought I'd have to dress in full riot gear here on the streets of the UK. 100 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,280 But with this general election just days away... 101 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,479 Again! 102 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,000 I never thought I'd have to dress in full riot gear 103 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,159 here on the streets of the UK. 104 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,600 But with this critical general election just days away, 105 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,280 confrontations like this are becoming more and more common. 106 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,800 There. That's great, 107 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:28,719 with the glass breaking. Use that. 108 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Yeah. 109 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,000 We want an end to immigration... 110 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,559 But they don't care about democracy or free speech... 111 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,959 What's she saying? 112 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,400 Only electing a white populist regime can put an end to this chaos, 113 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,600 blah, blah, blah. 114 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,120 Okay, great. We'll take that. Have you got a good end shot? 115 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,560 The girl. 116 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:48,960 Perfect. 117 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,160 Great! Upload that and email me the metrics when they're in. 118 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,560 Great job, Marina. 119 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,040 Excuse me! 120 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,920 Angie! 121 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,080 - Steve. How did he know? - Know what? 122 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,280 He gave me the riot gear before there was any violence. 123 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,000 He knew it was going to happen. 124 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Did we organise that counter-demonstration? 125 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,640 We organised both of them. 126 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,640 What? 127 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,400 Come on. 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,240 Right. Facebook page for Luton For Labour, 129 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,640 {\an8}set up seven months ago by us. 130 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,680 {\an8}We tweet about it with our fake accounts 131 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,520 and then the bots retweet it thousands of times. 132 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,959 And then like-minded people sign up. 133 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,560 So it doesn't exist. Luton For Labour? You made it up? 134 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,759 Well, it exists, on this page. 135 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,959 {\an8}It's got 96 members. 136 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,240 {\an8}And here's the message in the diary about today's event. 137 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,480 {\an8}Put there by you? 138 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,760 That's right. Okay? 139 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:02,200 And here's the Facebook page for "Take Back Control of Luton," 140 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,840 a fascist group that thinks it's time we went back to the 1930s, 141 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,720 also set up by us. 142 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,280 {\an8}And here's a message about a protest today 143 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,160 {\an8}at the same time, on the same street. 144 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,439 {\an8}So they all turn up, 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,040 completely unaware there's gonna be a rival group, 146 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,159 and then as soon as they see each other, they clash. 147 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,160 There's no need for us to provoke on the ground. 148 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,959 If we've attracted the right kind of people, 149 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,000 it'll kick off of its own accord. 150 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,280 So it's all made up. The whole thing. 151 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,720 Well, I prefer managed. 152 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,559 But what's the point of reporting something that's so obviously fake news? 153 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:45,080 Look, you need to forget all your previous experience 154 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,319 as a journalist, okay? 155 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,959 Whether it's faked isn't the point. 156 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,360 I mean, everything that's reported is fake, one way or another. 157 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:55,000 We know that people won't believe it. 158 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,480 It probably contradicts what we said yesterday. It doesn't matter. 159 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,720 The point is to get people used to the idea that everything's a lie, 160 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,440 that there is no truth. 161 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,560 And once they accept that, well, the biggest liar wins. 162 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,800 Shit. 163 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Oh, Christ. 164 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,760 Where did you get all this stuff? 165 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,400 Back of a skip. When they were clearing out Oakley. 166 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,640 Is that for Morse Code? 167 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,200 Mm-hmm. 168 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,359 I'm... I'm sorry. I'm interrupting your meal. 169 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,720 No, no, no. Here. Here, have a seat. 170 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Here. Try it. 171 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Good? 172 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,600 I... I can't... 173 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,200 Oh, sorry. 174 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,080 Mm. 175 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,000 Hold on. 176 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,840 Now, go. Go on. 177 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Me? 178 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,960 How was that? 179 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,160 Borderline crap. 180 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,880 This must all seem very, very old fashioned to you 181 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,000 but this was... 182 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,240 this one, this was state-of-the-art. 183 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,159 State-of-the-art in its day. 184 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,319 You nicked it, didn't you? 185 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,040 No. No, no, I told you. 186 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,640 I found it. Back of a skip. 187 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Where you found me. 188 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,520 I haven't got very much. 189 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,200 But if you come barging in uninvited, 190 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,600 you have to take your chances. 191 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,840 Well, like I say, I'm really not hungry. 192 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Ha. 193 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,200 You'll eat what you're given. And you'll enjoy it. 194 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,319 It's really good. 195 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,319 You needn't sound so surprised. 196 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Anyhow, my, er, brilliant analytical mastermind 197 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,359 deduces that you didn't come here 198 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,439 for the pleasure of my company. 199 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Come on, spit it out. If you see what I mean. 200 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,360 You're going to tell me I shouldn't discuss this with you. 201 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,519 Compartmentation and all that. 202 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Probably. 203 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,240 Okay. 204 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,200 I think there's something else hidden in the BT malware. 205 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,600 A third stage. 206 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,480 And your suspicions aren't widely shared? 207 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,640 Everyone thought I was so clever, finding the hidden level. 208 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,800 But... 209 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,240 I'm wondering if we weren't meant to find it, 210 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,960 so that we didn't look any further. 211 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,280 I think maybe there's something else hidden in there. 212 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,800 It's the Nigerian prince. 213 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:33,920 What? 214 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,639 You get an email from a Nigerian prince. 215 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:42,120 He has £50 million and he wants to deposit it in your account. 216 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,680 Hurrah. What do you do? 217 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,439 Delete it. It's spam. Everyone knows that. 218 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,239 Exactly. 219 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,200 As soon as you see an email from a Nigerian prince, 220 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,799 without even opening it, you think it's spam. 221 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:00,440 Trouble is, the other side knows that's what you're going to think. 222 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,920 The Russians are always looking at probabilities, 223 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,320 they adore working out how one behaviour leads to another, 224 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,680 predictable behaviour. 225 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,960 They've been studying us, how we behave, 226 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,880 since... well, since before the war. 227 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,640 Sounds like you admire them. The Russians. 228 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,240 Hmm. 229 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,280 No, I don't admire them. 230 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,040 I respect them. As worthy adversaries. 231 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,800 So what are you saying? 232 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,599 What am I saying? I'm saying, yes, 233 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,239 what if the other side has already predicted 234 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,800 every step you'll take when you analyse the malware? 235 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,159 Okay, fine, but how does that help? 236 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,999 It's a mountain of code. I still have no idea where to start. 237 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,400 Oh, dear. 238 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,680 "A mountain of code." Do you mind if I... 239 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Perhaps it will make you, er, check your assumptions. 240 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,399 Remember the Nigerian prince. 241 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:09,320 If you find yourself scouring through thousands and thousands of lines of code, 242 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:15,200 that's probably exactly what they're expecting you to do. 243 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Don't. 244 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,280 Do something else, unexpected. 245 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:22,240 Okay. 246 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,640 Like what? 247 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,119 Check the comms. 248 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:31,800 Find out how it's communicating and you're halfway there. 249 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,519 But it doesn't. That's the point. 250 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,399 This malware doesn't beacon at all. 251 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,440 Well, I suspect it's how you define communicating. 252 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,960 Everything communicates, one way or another. 253 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,040 You'll have to think outside the box. 254 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:51,880 Mm? 255 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:58,520 Or if you can't, then you have to find someone who can. 256 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,039 Uh-huh. 257 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,399 Well, I don't know. I think... 258 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,240 I think there's life in the old dog yet. 259 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,680 Hey. 260 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,480 You still here? 261 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,560 Working on the BT malware. In my own time. 262 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,560 So what are you doing? 263 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,720 Questioning our assumptions. 264 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,440 You've lost me. 265 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Everything. 266 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,400 What we think its purpose is. 267 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,080 Whether it communicates with the outside world. 268 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,520 I thought it didn't communicate. 269 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,040 Exactly. 270 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,760 That's one of our assumptions. 271 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,720 Another is that it didn't run in the sandbox. 272 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,240 I'm going to try again. 273 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,640 Anything? 274 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Hey. It was worth a try. 275 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,960 Why didn't he say anything else? 276 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,200 In Harrogate? 277 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,080 Why couldn't he be more specific? 278 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,640 Maybe he didn't know. 279 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,399 Or maybe Danny is right. 280 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,840 And it's just another provocation. 281 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,959 Another way to fuck with us. 282 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:03,080 {\an8}Tie us in knots looking for something that doesn't exist. 283 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:05,959 {\an8}I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing any more. 284 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,160 {\an8}Yes, you do. 285 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,440 That is about the only thing that's for sure here. 286 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,400 You were born for this. 287 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,200 Don't stay too late. 288 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,920 You're not convinced, are you? 289 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,640 Why did you bring me over here? 290 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,480 Don't you know? 291 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,000 No, actually. I don't. 292 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,200 I read this. 293 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:27,880 Tell me why you wrote it. 294 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,480 To cause trouble. 295 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,960 No, I don't think so. 296 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,919 I think you were trying to make Russia a better place. 297 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,240 - Really? - Yeah, I think so. 298 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,680 And you risked your liberty and the safety of your daughter to do it. 299 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,880 I think you're a patriot, but you probably don't like to admit it. 300 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,920 That's what I'm trying to do here. 301 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,280 Make Britain a better place. 302 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,800 But you're supporting Putin. And we were criticising him. 303 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,280 Well, we're taking his money. It's not necessarily the same thing. 304 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,200 Look, it's very simple. 305 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,840 You pointed out everything that was wrong with your society. 306 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,479 And you were very good at it. 307 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,800 And I want you to do the same thing here. 308 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:22,160 But Putin wants to trample all over Britain, not reform it. 309 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,920 No, he doesn't. 310 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,559 He wants to overturn the world order and he's right. 311 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,120 Russia has to get out from under the domination of the West 312 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,719 if it's going to grow. 313 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,880 And we have to tear apart what we've got here from the inside, 314 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,920 so we can build again, better. 315 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,680 Why can't I come in the front entrance? 316 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Our staff would be uncomfortable having you in the building. 317 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,359 Why? 318 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,920 Do I have "black hat" tattooed on my forehead? 319 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,600 Wait for me here. 320 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,040 What? Why? How long will you be? 321 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,080 I don't know. 322 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,560 Hey. 323 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,120 Can I borrow her for a minute? 324 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,800 Sure. 325 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,920 You know that we've been hunting the BT coders? 326 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,600 You found them? 327 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,720 The guy you met in Harrogate? 328 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,640 Is he one of these? 329 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,680 No. No. 330 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,720 Please. This is really important. 331 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,360 I promised. 332 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,280 I promised I wouldn't identify him. 333 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,640 He said his life would be in danger. I told you, he was terrified. 334 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,120 Well, we're about to publish their names and photographs. 335 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,880 You're what? Why? 336 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,680 As part of our response to the attack. To show that Russia was behind it. 337 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,040 Not him. Please. We have to protect him. I promised him. 338 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,760 Who? 339 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,400 Who, Saara? 340 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,160 Vadim Trusov. 341 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,920 Yeah. 342 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,720 How do you know? 343 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:42,959 I went to uni with him. 344 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,720 That's how I know he's genuine. 345 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,480 Please, don't do anything to hurt him. 346 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,440 I don't care about the others, but don't expose him. Please. 347 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,200 That would be even worse for him. 348 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,839 If we expose everyone else but not him, 349 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,800 it's just gonna throw suspicion on him, 350 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,720 it's gonna make it look like he's a British spy. 351 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,800 What, so this is everyone? The whole team? 352 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,000 - Is that what you're saying? - No... 353 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,799 So why can't he be one of the ones you miss out? 354 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,160 Because he's a key player. 355 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,999 All right, if he's not there, it's gonna look really suspicious. 356 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,360 It's actually safer for him if he's exposed as part of the group. 357 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,960 Saara. 358 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,640 He'll think I've betrayed him. 359 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Are you okay? 360 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720 - Can I say something? - Yeah, of course. 361 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,040 {\an8}Doesn't this make it more likely that what he told her {\an8}in Harrogate was true? 362 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,400 Vadim. 363 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,680 Well, he's one of the coders. 364 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,680 They wouldn't risk someone like that on a provocation operation, would they? 365 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,559 They'd just send someone expendable. 366 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,639 Someone like me. 367 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,880 Unless... 368 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,200 they knew their coder was at college 369 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,080 with a someone from our Malware Department, 370 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,560 so that sending him would make their provocation more believable. 371 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,760 Yeah. But how could they know that? 372 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,799 That she worked here? 373 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,800 And also, they had no idea who was going to turn up, did they? 374 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,760 But even if what he says is true, where does that get us? 375 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,760 I've had every hacker in this building tear that code apart, 376 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,840 and there's nothing. It's a dead end. 377 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,200 So, should I give them all to the Jolly Roger, him included? 378 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,480 Yeah. Do it. 379 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,920 - All good? - Fine. 380 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,640 Okay. 381 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,799 Sorry to keep you waiting. 382 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440 ...positions of power and influence. 383 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,920 One of the men named by the Jolly Roger website is Vadim Trusov, 384 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,160 the son of Felix and Ludmilla Trusov, owners of the Russian... 385 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,439 You're going to have to explain this to me. 386 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,760 How Vadim's any different from you or me? 387 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,240 He does what he's told because it's his job, 388 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,760 just like you and me. 389 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,760 Oh, yes. There is a difference. 390 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,599 He took a massive risk to try to help us 391 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,040 whereas you and I just threw him to the wolves. 392 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,879 Saara. 393 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,280 Jeremy, 394 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,800 this Jolly Roger, who is he? 395 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,879 See what you can find out. 396 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,160 Is he a front for the spooks? Does he even exist? 397 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,399 Quick as you can, yeah? 398 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,680 And prep a background piece on everything else he's done. 399 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,439 - Angie. - What? 400 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,800 Can I speak to you? 401 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,480 I'd like to try for an interview. 402 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,479 With one of the coders. 403 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,760 Well, the bids are already in. Might happen. Might not. 404 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,640 Depends which way they wanna play it. 405 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,800 Anyway, it's a job for one of the presenters. No offence. 406 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,840 I may have another way in. 407 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,520 I think Vadim Trusov would talk to me. 408 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,520 Why? 409 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,800 We're friends. 410 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,920 Hiya. 411 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880 - Hey. - Tell me you're not going in to work now. 412 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,000 Yeah, afraid so. 413 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,200 What are you looking at? 414 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,440 What are you looking at? 415 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,199 You guys not going to do anything? 416 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720 No can do, mate. It's a police-free zone, innit? 417 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,000 Can you hold that? 418 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,560 Mm. 419 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:49,520 You ready? 420 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,160 Okay. 421 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,320 Questions are here. Scroll like that, okay? 422 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,000 You okay? 423 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,720 I know you can do this. 424 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,760 Thank you. 425 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,440 Mr Trusov, you're accused of being behind the cyber attack 426 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,920 that caused billions of dollars of damage to another nation. 427 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,480 What's your response to these allegations? 428 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,879 I had nothing to do with this. 429 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,720 What about the evidence offered by the "Jolly Roger" website? 430 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,960 It's incontrovertible, isn't it? 431 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,400 What can I say? 432 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,560 I'm a computer engineer working in cyber security. 433 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,160 I know absolutely nothing about this. 434 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,360 Your parents, Felix and Ludmilla Trusov... 435 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,680 I don't have anything to do with my parents. 436 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,440 I make my own way in the world. 437 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,360 Maybe that's why I was targeted. Because of my parents. I don't know. 438 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:22,960 What about these people? 439 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,600 Who are accused alongside you? 440 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,680 I've never seen them before in my life. 441 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,319 So to your knowledge, you had never before met anyone, 442 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,440 dealt with anyone, from the FSB? 443 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,120 Is that what you're saying? 444 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,600 No. 445 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,400 Not until yesterday. 446 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,520 You met the FSB yesterday? 447 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,960 Why? 448 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,840 They had something for me. 449 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,240 What did they have for you? 450 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,800 Information. 451 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,679 Information? 452 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,839 About the people who did this to me. 453 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,000 About the people who tried to ruin my life. 454 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,640 What people? 455 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:17,680 One of them is an analyst at the UK's intelligence organisation. GCHQ. 456 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:22,320 Er, she's on secondment from the National Security Agency in the US. 457 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,519 The other is an illegal hacker who works as a freelance for GCHQ. 458 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,200 Known as "Jolly Roger." 459 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920 The analyst's name is Kathy Freeman. 460 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,399 Er, the hacker is Darran Wiskowski. 461 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,840 Their addresses are written there. 462 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,160 So, can you explain how you... 463 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,440 The other is an illegal hacker who works as a freelance for GCHQ. 464 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,960 Known as "Jolly Roger." 465 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,080 The analyst's name is Kathy Freeman. 466 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,360 You still think that he was just doing his job? 467 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,440 I've had to search the whole building to find you. 468 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,400 So... 469 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,360 Are you leaving? 470 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,080 I haven't decided. 471 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,840 But are you... Are you safe here? 472 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,280 What about your flat? Won't you have to move out? 473 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,320 Danny's getting me packed up. 474 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,480 They'll find me somewhere else. 475 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,840 You could stay with us. 476 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,920 I mean, it's really tiny. You'd have to sleep on the sofa. 477 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,120 But it's safe. 478 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,720 Bedroom. 479 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,120 It's cute. 480 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,760 Yeah. 481 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,560 And then there's a dining table, 482 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,040 and then this is the kitchen. 483 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,520 You're welcome to use the fridge, stove, oven, you know, anything. 484 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,960 Thanks. 485 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,400 Like I say, it's small. 486 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,560 Well, it'll only be for a couple of days. 487 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,120 Stay as long as you need. 488 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,400 Oh... Oh, my God. What happened? 489 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,320 That's you. 490 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,519 Er, we work together. 491 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,760 Erm... She needs somewhere safe to stay. 492 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,560 I said she could stay here. 493 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,800 Okay. 494 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,280 What happened? 495 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,040 We were, erm... 496 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,760 We were attacked. On the protest. 497 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,440 I was arrested. 498 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,760 - God. - Yeah. 499 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,120 James, are you okay? 500 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,680 I... I should go... 501 00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,840 No, no. No, no. She asked you to stay. 502 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,560 Stay. 503 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,320 So, what happens now? Will they want to retaliate? 504 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,280 Possibly. 505 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,240 I think we're more worried about what Russia's got planned for the election. 506 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,759 God knows what else they've got squirrelled away in our systems. 507 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,560 Yeah, but another retaliation can't be the answer, can it? 508 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560 Outing our analyst was just them retaliating for us naming their coders. 509 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,440 If we attack them again, it's just an ever-escalating spiral. 510 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,160 Surely it has to stop here? 511 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,760 I hope you're right. 512 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,320 But we're four points behind in the polls. 513 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,920 A bit of sabre-rattling goes down well with our base.